The Engineer Trying to Outsmart Aging w/ Martin Munzer

Martin

Well, it was kind of out of necessity. Most of the time things come out of necessity and I started the company after I had to shut down SaiGee Labs. really it was a collusion between industry and the FDA. They tricked me into a conference, I spoke about what we were gonna offer and they told us we were diagnosing and prescribing practicing medicine without license, and they shut me down.

Without any real cause I could have fought it, but who has the millions of dollars to fight these companies? So I started evolutionary leap technologies because with the genetics world we had something that was pretty much a leap over at that time, the status quo.

And this company was formed in order to help companies that were in the similar or type of scenario where they're up against an entrenched technology, which an industry wants to husband the best they can. And unfortunately they resort to really extreme measures and you know, it's it's an ugly world when it comes to money, and that's what these guys do is they they use every means to kill you.

So that they can make a lot of money. So and in doing that, you know, I was consulting a variety of companies, very exciting technologies, water purification and you know, next generation vaccine technology with a patch instead of the injection and very safe, reduce the use of the mercury preservative that's in there and the adjuvant, which is aluminum-based, which are usually the problems in.

Jeff Albaum

Sure.

Martin

vaccines these days. well now it's you know these genetically engineered vaccines which we don't want to talk about. But at the end, you know, while I was doing this consulting work, my mom, who was eighty-five, eighty six at the time, started losing her memory and falling all the time. And she was a very vibrant person up to that point. You know, being the good son son that I am, I

Again, I went to the all the doctors. They all said, she's 90, 86, she's had a good life, let her go. And you know, knowing what that entailed and having a lot of love for my mom, I started going back to the

Jeff Albaum

Mm.

Martin

The basics, you know, I mean I'm an I have a master's in engineering and I look at things differently because of that. That was quite an extensive training and so I usually put that to work in anything that I am confronted with.

And so what I did is, you know, at first I had said, well, she's falling all the time, she needs to get stronger. let's get some protein into her. Okay. And we did all these protein drinks and everything, and nothing really worked. All it did was make her fat.

And I in the meantime I was looking at amino acids. I had been, you know, familiar with, you know, the building blocks of the human body. And you know, the the the number one nutrient, real nutrient, I mean we do need air, oxygen to live, we need water in order to survive, but the the real nutrient behind that is a protein.

and proteins very misunderstood. So one protein is never like the other and none of them are ideal for the human metabolism. they're ideal for the life form that gives you that protein. but that's about it. Okay. So well

Jeff Albaum

Wait, can can you explain the difference between what what those two mean? I didn't I didn't understand.

Martin

what we get from protein are amino acids. Amino acids are the building blocks of all life forms that we know. Now, when you are consuming protein, you know, whether it's beef from a cow or if it's chicken or or fish or whatever or plants, you're basically getting the protein makeup that is made for that life form.

Okay, so if it's a fish it has amino acids that because the amino acids make everything in the in the life form. Okay, so for a plant it would be to make roots and fruits or vegetables or leaves etc.

for a chicken it would be to make feathers and beaks and all the things that make a chicken unique and and when it comes to cattle or other animals it's whatever they need whether to make hoofs or five stomachs or whatever the you know the requirement is now when we eat the protein of which we need the essential amino acids so the essential amino acids are found in most everything.

The difference is the ratio. Okay, so the ratios are different. What they need, whether they need more leucine or more there's nine essential amino acids, and the human body makes another 12 non-essential amino acids, which are what we need specifically for humans. So now when we digest

Jeff Albaum

Okay.

Martin

any given protein source, we use anywhere between 30-50 percent, sometimes more of the energy that's in that protein source just to digest it.

Okay, it's a digesting protein is a is a tough thing. That's why our stomach makes very strong acid. If you were to take a sample of that and put it on a piece of wood, it'll burn a little hole in it. because hydrochloric acid is a very powerful, especially if you have the right pH, is a very powerful thing.

Jeff Albaum

Right.

Martin

so that's the you know, the first stage really starts in your mouth with enzymes, et cetera. But you know, people really don't chew that much anymore, especially with processed foods. So it goes right in the stomach. The stomach hydrolyzes it or combines it with the hydrochloric acid. And the acid, you know, if you put you know, a piece of meat into a beaker with hydrochloric acid, you'll see what it does to it. It just, you know, digests it, it breaks it down.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

And then once that is completed, it goes into the small intestine, which neutralizes the acid and now starts introducing bile and enzymes, all the enzymes that are needed to continue breaking down what's in that food product. you know, so we're really highly evolved life form.

not to supersede other ones. They all amaze me. but you know, we're very unique because we have certain characteristics that the other life forms don't have.

you know well they may have some form of cognicity or cognitive sent thinking capabilities but they're lacking you know the instruments to you know make things and do do more with what they have and you know I don't want to diminish the intellect of animals or other life forms but we certainly have an evolved one that's very unique. So

Once we digest this food that we get from other life forms, we break it down and and and absorb what we need, but there's also all the stuff that we don't need. so there's the all the non-essential amino acids that were made by the host, which are of absolutely no value to us, and we have to detoxify. So

In this modern day, we have to detoxify more than just that. We have to detoxify all the industrial production processes that introduced all kinds of garbage into the food, which is what's probably a major factor in you know

Jeff Albaum

Yeah.

Martin

most debilitating diseases that are appearing, even some that are just annoyances like the all the rashes that people are getting out of immune reactions, and mu you know allergies, things like that. I think are a lot of it is caused by you know the body being overwhelmed in processing and detoxifying these substances and at some point you know you hit you hit a tipping point and the stuff starts

Accumulate in your body, you can't get rid of it, and it makes you sick. so you know.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

What I what I did was I wasn't even thinking of that when I developed the formula. What I was thinking of was a coming up with something that's much more bioavailable, meaning pre-digested, and in the raw pure form, which when you buy amino acids, commercially for for production of supplements like I make, they're ninety-five to ninety-nine percent pure.

which is better than anything else you can get out there because the things are all full of impurities these days. So once I started giving my mother the first generations of amino acid formulations that I had,

I noticed that she really started getting stronger within a short time. I mean, it took only six to eight weeks before she didn't need any help getting up out of a chair anymore. And she was she heard the doorbell ring and she'd go running to open up the door.

Jeff Albaum

So Martin, can I can I pause you for one second? So was the thought process you you know, you saw your mom was was aging and you said, okay, you need get stronger. So think pro what does everyone think if you need to get stronger? Protein, right? But your your thought process was, okay, but what's behind the protein? Protein's different. Like the base, like underneath that is actually amino acids. So what if I could give her the amino acids that her body would be able to absorb without the waste and detoxifying of

Martin

Sure.

Exactly.

Jeff Albaum

other amino acids or other protein sources. Is that is that right?

Martin

Well.

All all the all the goodies came later, you know. So the first thing I was trying to do is just, you know, try to get nutrition into her that would be absorbed and processed efficiently. You know, engineers are always looking for efficiency and optimization. And I thought let's circumvent the digestive process, which it usually is diminished in age, you know, so you do lose digestive efficiency, especially you know

Jeff Albaum

Okay.

Martin

people take anti acids or stuff like that, that'll kill your stomach acid. So the stuff goes into your small intestine undigested or partially digested. And then you're not getting the benefit of the nutrients that are in whatever you've eaten. So that that was the the the line of thought. So the first part that I developed was really the amino acid or the macronutrient side.

And then came the micronutrients because I was involved in genetics for 13 years. I mentioned I think I'm I was one of the pioneers in the direct-to-consumer genetics industry. And we had a lot of biotech patents related to diagnostics and therapeutics. And at the end we had to make money, and so I said, let's take our knowledge and and turn it into a predictive genetic test that can be marketed to people to try to help them sidestep.

Predispositions that they had, et cetera. And one of the areas that really interested me in genetics was epigenetics. And this was an area that was really very unstudied at the time. I mean, this was back in the in the late 90s, early 2000.

and you know epigenetics relates to the chemical substances in and around the genes that regulate how they perform. So we came onto this or I came on to it when we were looking at twin studies, identical twins and they have the identical chromosomes, you know, same one for mom, same one from dad. And so they should have the same kind of process in their, you know,

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

lifetime, you know, that they get certain debilitating things and others not, they should get the same stuff, right?

Well, no, we found, you know, looking at those twin studies, some would get a debilitating disease and others wouldn't. And how is that possible? Well, it it's in the genes that are being regulated that cause certain things. So usually these are what are called coding genes. They make something, they're responsible for something in the body, and it turns out that there's certain substances, chemicals.

That helps to regulate them. Okay, so they basically, to make it simple, are an on and off switch, but they're actually modulating a lot of the time. And so based on what your current needs are, they will modulate so that the gene produces more or less.

And what happens in aging is that the epigenetic coding, which is there from, you know, very, you know, from basically when you're born, you have let's say, 100% epigenetic regulation. That's theoretical, of course. And as you age, you lose that, so that by the age of 70, 80, 90, you've lost 90% of your epigenetic regulation. So your genes are all run running amok.

All right. now yes, it may take several years for whatever is being dysregulated to cause some downstream reaction. but

Needless to say, these are things that we can help to alleviate. And that's again, so with the protein equivalent, I was looking to give the body what it needs. And what you know, basically protein delivers the amino acids that the body uses to make hormones and enzymes and prote peptides and you know, everything in the body is practically made from amino acids, almost everything in the body.

So, if you can provide those building blocks in a form that's very efficient and ideal for humans, people will flourish. Okay. And the same thing goes with the epigenetic story. You know, once you provide the building blocks that are essential for the for a natural epigenetic regulation.

and you know, there are substances. For example, like I've been into the alternative wor world now for I guess almost fifty years or more.

And I've, you know, I'm kind of a botanist on the side. You know, I work with a lot of botanicals. I think they're great. What nature's given us is phenomenal. And my favorite botanicals, when I did a very sophisticated analysis back, I guess it was over over 17 years ago or 16 years ago, I found that my favorites that I knew worked, you know, because there's a lot of stuff that just doesn't work.

or it needs something else to work. But the ones that I knew worked were turned out to be the best epigenetic regulators. Okay. For example, yeah, Kirkumin, which is an extract from turmeric.

Jeff Albaum

Can you can you give an example?

Martin

is an epigenetic regulator. It helps down regulate inflammation markers and things like that. It does a lot of things we don't, you know, listen, the industry has pissed away so much money, okay, that they get from us, the taxpayers, through grants and they do all these studies and all this stuff and they make a ton of money from us. But all they look at are substances they can patent.

So they take one singular molecule and configure it to do one singular thing, and that's the the substance of a study that then becomes a drug. Okay, so that's all they focus on. for me what they no, you can't. That's and and that's the issue with the industry. You know, they try to destroy anything.

Jeff Albaum

Mm.

And it's hard to patent turmeric.

Martin

the credibility of anything that is not patentable, that is readily available to people, especially if it's part of your food or whatever, you know. so yeah these botanicals that I have there's you know curcuminoids I use a lot. I have four patented forms or proprietary forms of turmeric extracts and those are really good.

They do all kinds of fabulous stuff and we haven't even figured out all the stuff that it does. It actually was used endemically in the in the populations in India and et cetera, because they're in a subtropical climate.

And they learned they were using turmeric as a dye, and they learned that somehow it's a preservative. They started cooking with it and it preserved whatever they the food they made so that they could save it for the next day. And so it's a great preservative. That's how it became endemic. And when you looked at those populations, that's how I came up with a lot of the botanicals that I was using. I I interrupted you, go ahead.

Jeff Albaum

Wow. No. Well I was I was making a joke that you couldn't patent turmeric, but then you said that you you had four four component of turmeric that were patented, so that I was wrong. How how did

Martin

Yeah. I'll I'll explain to you how. So these are patents that are not patents on the plant itself or on the substances found in the plants. these are patents on how the the plant is processed to arrive at the certain, you know, type. Like one of the forms of curcumin that I use is called theracumin, comes from Japan.

Jeff Albaum

Sure.

Martin

Instead of costing a few bucks a kilo, it costs four or five hundred dollars a kilo. and it's been specially processed, so it's very highly absorbable. Okay. And that's the problem with turmeric is that you it's very difficult to absorb. When you eat turmeric straight or have it in in in a curry dish, you know, you absorb maybe two, three percent of it. Okay.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

So that's very inefficient. You can't eat enough to supply what the body really needs to affect what it does. So that's how these companies have come up. you know, there's one that's a water soluble extract of turmeric.

which doesn't take the curcuminoids, which are need to be extracted with more harsher method measures, but it takes out everything else. So I always look at plants as something that are really special, and I try to use everything that's in the plant. Okay, because plants will have hundreds or thousands of active components, and actually most of them not only just are really good and work.

but they work in concert. So you by taking just one you only get part of the equation. If you take a more full spectrum extract, you end up with a lot more benefits that can be attributed to that plant.

Jeff Albaum

Mm.

Can I can I ask a question about the specifically the the turmeric product you were talking about? So on the one hand, it it sounds like you know, you want to tend to avoid highly processed foods. I feel like that's pretty everyone will like nod their head, like, yeah, that don't don't eat those. But then on the other hand, it makes sense what you're saying that for certain ingredients like turmeric, it actually is really hard for your body for you to eat enough to get the benefits of it. So in this case, you you did this

highly processed process to make this product to allow yourself to be able to absorb the amount of turmeric that your body can actually use. So how do you balance the two? Because I understand that not all I'll Yeah, go for it.

Martin

Yeah, that's a good question. Very good question. Look in essence, you know, there there's a lot of misnomers in this world, not just the thing about the protein that not all proteins are alike, but also the issue of the processed foods. What we're talking about a processed food is an industrial produced product.

that has extended shelf life, that has all the different characteristics that are necessary for the commercial product to be viable. Okay. so in essence

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

The processing is still in the food that you eat. Okay, so you've got the preservatives in there, you've got all the colors and dyes and flavorants and all the stuff that they put in there, plus all the garbage that comes along with the food these days.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

So when you're doing an extract, the substance that was used to extract certain components of a plant are not supposed to be present anymore after the extract is completed. There may be small trace amounts of it, but really insignificant.

so you are getting the pure substance, but it's an isolated part of the plant, not everything. It's a it's certain aspects of it. And there's companies that have focused on extracting just the curcuminoids. There's an Indian company called Sabinsa. they have two of the patented products that I that I use.

And they're full spectrum just the curcuminoids. And like I said, curcuminoids are not the only actives in the turmeric plant. And that's why I use termesin. Termisin is is another proprietary product, which is the water extract. So with you know, I make tinctures, I make all kinds of things out of

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

botanicals because they have great properties, and antimicrobial primarily, but there's other properties that are also very good that that are in plants. And

You know, when you when you extract and you want a certain type of components that are in the plant, you can make a tea out of it, which is you know, a water extract. you can make an alcoholic extract, and there's other types of extracts. Nowadays there's CO two extracts that will extract certain components or the whole thing. so these are the

Technologies that have evolved to be able to extract certain substances out of you know the botanicals and tinctures have been around for hundreds of years. Come up with those, they have you know, some that are done with with glycol, which is a sugar, and others with alcohol and ethanol and and all kinds of different.

Jeff Albaum

Got it. Got it, got it.

Martin

types, some are extracted unfortunately with acetone, which is very aggressive. I stay away from those, you know, because any small residual is really not a good thing. so in essence there there's a different way of skinning the cat to get to the to the substance that you're looking at.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

And so it I feel like with nutrition and kind of w with with the human body in general, there's so much knowledge that you have to have, right? But so knowing everything that you've you've learned over your career, over your life, what do you personally eat in a day? Like what is a typical Wednesday look like? What what is everything you consume?

Martin

All right, well, you know, I'm I'm very very different in the in the sense. so I developed this formula and it has the the amino acids, it has medium chain triglycerides, which are which are fats from coconut, very high concentrated 70% coconut fat. then

It has complex carbohydrates. it has the botanicals in there, which there's a host of those. And it has micronutrients, especially those that are missing in the modern diet that are critical.

For metabolizing and making the amino acids that the human body makes, and to make all the substances that are made from amino acids, to make the cells, to make all the different components. So those I put in there because they're essential to the fundamentals. Okay. I couldn't throw in the kitchen sink. I mean, I could have, but I'm already at the over 50 ingredients, active ingredients.

And you know the problem with formulations like this is that, yeah, you could do a clinical study. I wanted to do one, you know, 14 years ago.

because I saw what this formula did for my mom and it kind of blew me away and I and then I tried it with a PhD gerontologist who gave it to her clients and everybody had different benefits. And so I was amazed by that. I mean amazed you know look I was amazed by the results. I I expected it to happen. I just didn't expect it that way.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

So when I found all these things going on, I wanted to do a big study on it. But the problem with studies are this. so in the meantime, I've evolved my product that's been on the market for over 13 years. So there's you know, four different iterations at least, and I've got some in my private member group that go beyond that. Every time you change something,

it's the study's no longer valid. It doesn't apply. So for example, even though let's say curcumin is known to reduce inflammation, I can't make that claim about my product because it's a mix of all kinds of ingredients. And what the alleged scientific community says is that well

We don't know if that's gonna happen when you do it. Mix it up with all that other stuff. By itself, it does do that, okay? But that's you know, this has been a thing that started pretty much at the beginning of the last century where you know the drug companies went away from the natural medicine.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

And focused on these single molecule patentable substances that they could market for a huge margin. And and what they did is in the process they became more and more aggressive about you know, basically look, I looked at back in the nineties, I looked at all this the the

money at that time it went towards the scientific journals that report on on studies and discoveries and things like that. And

this study was done by I think it was Duke University and the University of Florida. I may be wrong, but I my memory serves me right. And they found that those publications that received grants or donations or money advertising funds from Big Pharma surprisingly never said anything good about anything natural that was discovered or revealed.

Okay. and those yeah, and those that didn't take the money, they were actually quite favorable. those have quickly disappeared and we now see, you know, all this advertising on TV. And you know, listen to the to the you know, small print. At the end they say, well, you know, if you've got this or that, don't take it. Yeah, exactly, exactly. so it it's not geared to sell product, it's geared to control the media.

Jeff Albaum

Funny how that works.

Right, the really fast one. You might die, but it's fine. Yeah. Wait, but so

Sure. So so I I wanna get back to to your your daily diet. So what I'm assuming you you take your own products, presumably. So w

Martin

Okay.

I take my own product. So look, I used to be a standard guy, you know, three meals a day, type of thing.

And you know, in my forties, you know, I was very active, but you know, in the afternoons I need a strong cup of coffee to keep me going. If I was down in Miami, I'd have a cup of c or two of Cuban coffee, that'll really zip you up. and you know, I was noticing all the things that you know come with age and it really starts in your thirties. so what

happened when I and this it was a natural progression. I started taking my product. I did did it first thing in the morning when I woke up because you got to take it on an empty stomach. That's the best way to get the maximum absorption. And you know I'm all about efficacy and and optimizing so that's the best way of getting what what you need out of the formula. And and then I take my second serving in the afternoon.

And what I noticed is that I wasn't hungry anymore. And not only was I not hungry, but when I ate, all that happened was it made me tired. It didn't, you know, I I if I didn't need to, why eat? Okay. so I eat one meal a day primarily. Okay. It's usually dinner. Absolutely. Yeah, it's dinner.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

And is it usually dinner or w w what w timing wise, when is it? Okay. And what is what does that look like? Is that how many around how many calories, what types of foods?

Martin

All right.

You know, I don't have to focus on protein because it's already in my formula. And if you you know, if you have if you're of average size and weight, you know, one serving should be equivalent to what you get out of what what you need in a in a maybe a third of a day or a quarter of a day. So by taking two servings, you've got half your day's requirement of amino acids.

Now the thing is that it's it's different, and I've learned this over time. so at first I always recommended one serving in the morning, one in the afternoon. try to fit the afternoon one in between lunch and dinner, closer to dinner, so that the stomach is empty and you drink it down and it gets absorbed efficiently.

The reason you don't get hungry is really interesting is because hunger really comes from pika. And pika is your body's need for something. what you know, pika really is when you know people are starving and they'll eat anything, they'll eat soil, they'll eat whatever, trying to you know take care of their nutritional needs.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

And so you know a lot of people that are overweight are really malnourished.

because they're not eating the right things and they still have certain deficiencies. This has been really increased dramatically by the modern production methods of food. Look back in the seventies, you know, I was a hippie and I I was into alternative this, alternative that, you know, energy, alternative energy, alternatives in in

diet and nutrition. And we already knew back in the 70s that the soils back then already were depleted of the micronutrients that are in the soil. Okay. so I've been taking trace minerals, for example, I don't know, for over 40 maybe years. so trace minerals are really essential.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

And if you don't have them, your body doesn't function completely right. If you're and depends on which one. magnesium is one of the largest essential minerals. I have a lot of it in my formula because most people are deficient in it.

And so magnesium is used to make cells to make all you know a a lot of different metabolites that are made by the body or used by the body. so magnesium is essential, critical.

So you know, I kind of, you know, all my knowledge has kind of brought me to the point where I know what what to do. My dinner really is irrelevant. I now take, you know, the equivalent of four servings of the formula, which is not identical to what I what I originally developed. What's on the commercial marketplace? I make it privately for my private member group, and I'm looking at all different formulations to overcome.

anabolic resistance and to address certain needs that individuals have that that are struggling with something or the other. So I take four times of what I normally had recommended. You shouldn't take it of the original formula.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

because it's got too many highly bioactive substances, a certain type of selenium that's in there, the bioactive B12 and B9, etc. So you shouldn't take more than two servings of that. But I have another product which is currently not in the market, which is just the macronutrient side of that formula. So it only has the amino acids, the medium chain triglycerides, and the complex carbohydrates.

And and then it has a few cofactors, but they're not really that elaborate. so those I take together. I've developed different ratios. The key to humanizing the essential amino acids is figuring out

How the body uses each and every one of them and come up with the ideal ratios, the amounts, so that you don't take too much of one because it does something that may not be the good thing in your body. You take the ideal amount. So that's what I've been trying to approach. You know, I knew right away that it was a better.

alternative the natural protein. Aside from the digestive issues and the absorption issues, I mean people started to flourish when they took the the formula. So

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

I don't need to eat during the day at all. I just take my my formula and I'll eat at dinner time and it really doesn't matter what I eat. I mean I've tried all diets because you know I have this private member group and I help people with all different types of issues. and you know, so I've tried all the modern diets, you know, I even you know, before I I would

test out the Atkins diet when that was a fad, you know, or the keto diet or the, you know, so I've done the the vegan and vegetarian and I like that because, you know, I I I hate eating tortured meat. You know, I mean, all the industrial meat and and

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

even fish, et cetera, they're the fish are stressed out, you know, they give all these hormones and antibiotics and and crap to keep them healthy until they they harvest them. and it's no different with the animals. it's it just keeps getting compounded the issues with the food supply. You know, now they're too lazy to open up the plastic bags and the animals are eating the plastic bags to get to the food and

So they have microplastics in them, you know, and we're eating those, you know, we get it in the water from the plastic bottles, you know, you know, so at the end we're challenged in this day and age with a really bad food supply. So if we can kind of gravitate towards something that's a lot healthier, that has exactly what we need, and we don't have to torture animals or you know.

Jeff Albaum

Right, right.

Martin

contaminate as many plants as they do. now with glyphosate, they just got the waiver you can use glyphosate and not sue the company because you know, they they need it. They have to have it. It's gotta, you know, our food supply is at risk. We won't get enough food. And so they convince the the regulators to, you know, you can't sue if you get cancer from this, you can't sue. And it's already been proven glyphosate causes cancer and all these lawsuits are trying to get away from them. So

They say, yeah, we'll we'll keep making glyphosate and you won't, if you don't use it, you know, all these GMO plants will die out, you know, and you won't have the fruit supply. in the meantime, most of our plants are already GMO because of cross-pollination. so

Jeff Albaum

Dang.

Mm-hmm.

Martin

you know, these these are the problems that the food industry has created for us in their zeal, yes, to make you know quicker yields, to make bigger yields and all these wonderful things they said, okay, but at the end it turned out to be not that great for humans. Okay, so the glyphosate they put on the plants are now fed to the animals, you know, those plants, the grains are fed to

the animals and the animals now have glyphosate. They've done studies on grass-fed beef versus you know the conventional industrial beef and there's big differences in the glyphosate amount. Actually the the grass-fed are practically zilch unless there was cross you know pollination that went on with something that they were eating.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

and they got certain characteristics. I mean, the glyphosate does you know, since it's sprayed, it does go from field to field, et cetera. But at the end they had a lot less. so that's why everybody's going for grass fed. And I don't blame I I do as well.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

And if I eat something that may have glyphosate, like I like drinking a glass of beer every now and then, and all beer, there's a couple of guys that went around the country and went to all the small distilleries and the big ones, they all have glyphosate in them, you know. and you know, basically aside from the digestive issues that they cause, there's all kinds of things we haven't discovered yet that will be caused by them.

Jeff Albaum

Hmm.

Martin

so again, this isn't these are industries that are extremely powerful, that have done all kinds of really bad things for us, knowingly. I mean, they knew about glyphosate years and years ago. and you know, it's one of the reasons that Bayer bought Monsanto because they were being hit with all these lawsuits. Okay. And now

Bayer managed to convince the world that you know you have to have glyphosate and the European Commission, the US regulatory systems, they all protected them and gave them free reign to keep doing it. at the end, what I'm trying to come up with, not just with with my formulas, but you know, philosophically.

And this is where AI comes in. I love AI, okay? I think AI is basically opening the door for the next great leap for humanity, of course, provided that you know

Some assholes out there don't use it for bad things. You know, they're already doing it. They're using it to hack and to do, you know, all kinds of scams and look at social media. It's all full of AI generated content, which is not true. but

AI has tremendous potential and it can lead us to a point, you know, a lot of young people are afraid of it, etc. But you know, the one thing that I discovered throughout my my career is that all people have talents, innate talents.

some talents are passed on through epigenetics. Okay. I sound like my father, probably because I got some of his epigenetics, and I know from certain experiences that he had that I got that. It's it's a natural thing that happens in nature that helps a species to survive.

You basically pass on your knowledge of experience to the next generation, and they'll be afraid of something. Why? Because their forefathers at some point experienced that, and it was very dangerous, and therefore we have this instinct. So that's epigenetics comes in there as well. Okay. so look the the abilities that we have are

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

mostly untapped. Okay. you know, we're groomed practically to make money. Okay. We're lured with here here's the carrot, you know, drop everything. You gotta make money. And, you know, look, I've met a lot of really wealthy people in my day, and others that are not so fortunate. And they they really don't die any happier than than

people that have led a good full life, you know, that aren't rich. And you know, it's more about, you know, using those talents, using your creativity in order to with AI facilitate coming up with something that's extremely unique or you know really beneficial. And I think there's a lot that needs to be discovered that way.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

One of the problems we have is industry has been suppressing next generations of technology. they've been buying them up and putting them on the shelf. they've been killing them, killing people. They've been doing all kinds of things over the years to get rid of anything that is disruptive. And that's a problem. Look, I I'm

I'm a hundred percent a capitalist in the sense that I believe in freedom, I believe in you know, all the things that are good. That's why I came to America. Look, I was born in Colombia, I lived in Europe, and I had a choice of where to live.

and I came to America. Why? Because it it provided the the laws, the structure for each man is created equal, one would hope that that would be respected. And you know, also that, you know, you're not frivolously persecuted, you know, or because of one thing or the other.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

you know, the unfortunate thing is we've given too much power to corporations. And the the corporations have taken the liberty that they have the freedom to do anything they want, even if it's bad for people. Okay. And they claim that you know this is their obligation to create wealth for their shareholders, but that's bullshit, that's just an excuse.

Jeff Albaum

Mm-hmm.

Martin

it's a perpetuation of whatever they're doing. And it may have been good at one point, but it's obsolete. And we could make a generational leap and they're not letting anybody do it. Why? Because they're making too much money and they would be out of the equation or they'd be making a lot less, and that's why they go after it.

Jeff Albaum

Right. Man, I feel like I could talk to you for hours, Martin. Thank thank you for coming on and sharing sharing your story. Where can people find out more about you?

Martin

Well, you know, I guess I'll I'll I'm I'm starting to do podcasts. You're the first one official podcast that I do. I have yeah, no, y listen. and and I actually, you know, I had the opportunity to go on with you know, an agent that will get me to the top ten

Jeff Albaum

I'm honored.

Martin

But those are, you know, interested in other things. They don't, you know, even if they wanted to hear my stuff. I I wanna help small guys like you get out there and get the word because this is something, you know, a a lot more people should learn about.

so my product can be purchased at leapxx.com. That's L E A P X X dot com. And Leap used to stand for Live Evolve and Prosper, but I had to change the acronym. Somebody pointed out that it was a you know the Star Star Wars or Star Trek thing. So I I I so I came up with Live Energized and Prosper.

Jeff Albaum

The Star Trek. Yeah.

Nice.

Martin

and that's what the formula does. It helps I mean, helps build energy and resilience and strength and endurance. And that's what you need to prosper.

Jeff Albaum

Well, thank you so much again, Martin. This is very, very interesting. I'm excited to check out your product and your website and looking forward to catching up with you again here soon.

Martin

All right. Thanks Jeff for the opportunity. I appreciate it. All right. Bye bye.

Jeff Albaum

Thank you. Bye everybody.